Using external wireless devices

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  • #1423

    entr0py
    Participant

    I would like to use my external USB wireless adapter. I looked over the forums already and nothing was mentioned (that I found).

    #1643

    Alex – NetSpot
    Keymaster

    That’s a feature for version 2. Stay tuned. We will add the possibility to use external AirPort-compatible adapters soon.

    #2746

    e30cabrio
    Participant

    2 years + later & into version 2.4.560 can’t use with USB AC dongle.

    #2770

    Alex – NetSpot
    Keymaster

    /help/talk/topic/wireless-adapter/

    #2771

    urgui
    Participant

    If I may comment as relatively new user of NetSpot professional …

    I suggest to be a bit more open regarding issues related to introduction of features like this. Often users not familiar with internals of Apple OS’es, policies etc can’t understand why it’s sometimes so hard to support stuff from outside of the Apple world, implement features Apple haven’t meant to be implemented etc. And it leads to (unnecessary) frustration from users, but not pointed to the reality (Apple), but to the developers.

    As I understand at the moment (correct me if I’m wrong) it is possible to use external interfaces, but these have to use AirPort API and export all necessary info to it. And there is a (internal) test tool available to test capabilities of devices. No? Is there a reason why such tool isn’t public?

    Also a word about “coming next features” announcements. I understand that developers want to share some info about future – ie “yes, we are implementing all this stuff”. But again, fo example I see a lot of promises has been made in the 2.1 release notes – WiSpy support, predictive surveys, external devices support. We all (me too) would like to see it. And don’t get me wrong – at least from my point of view I never make buying decisions based on promises. And I understand that it takes time to implement all this, but again – users are just seeing unfulfilled promises.

    Just think about it, please ;).

    #2772

    Alex – NetSpot
    Keymaster

    Thanks a lot for the follow-up! And yes, we are trying to be as open as possible. Doing our best, still coping with eternal problem of all the developers on Earth: lack of time and resources :)

    > it leads to (unnecessary) frustration from users, but not pointed to the reality (Apple), but to the developers

    Thanks for understanding. In Apple’s eco-system, developing something like NetSpot sometimes seems to be “unwanted” by Apple itself, though the product and the technology is such a perfect fit to mobile computers by Cupertino team… And actually many people from Apple like NetSpot, get back to us with feature requests and very nice feedback.

    > it is possible to use external interfaces, but these have to use AirPort API

    Correct. But up till now we are unable to confirm anything specific here with a more or less extensive test results, unfortunately.

    > there is a (internal) test tool available to test capabilities of devices. No? Is there a reason why such tool isn’t public?

    As we are not sure this test utility works, we don’t want it to be publicly available. You are probably person #7 who will get this tool, and no one has reported any success with their external WiFi adapters yet. So it’s a very very preliminary topic for NetSpot at the moment. Though we are definitely making some random attempts in this direction.

    > WiSpy support, predictive surveys, external devices support

    That’s our timeline with a global look into the future. Our apologies that some features are still in the workshop. If we can, we name more definitive release dates. Your comments noted. And we thank you for supporting our passion for new features in NetSpot. As an excuse (hopefully a temporary one), see above about time and resources…

    And thanks again for keeping in touch. Your feedback is always welcome! All the topics are open at this forum :)

    #2810

    urgui
    Participant

    But back to the topic.

    I don’t think that there is a chance to support external adapters in this way. AFAIK Apple airport API supports very limited set of Broadcom PCI(e) chips and that’s it. I’ve never heard of any USB WiFi device working out of the box for MacOSX. It’s always third party drivers + their own network utility.

    Of course the problem with third party is that you have to connect with API they provide and these are probably with different vendors. I’d think about trying to make contact with some MacOSX friendly third party vendor and focusing on that. For example ASUS is a one making MacOSX drivers for USB WiFi adapters and has (relatively ;) good reputation and quality.

    And of course there is a Wi-Spy. Although damn expensive (I don’t even see the price listed any more in the Metageek site :), it’s something many of us (semi)pros would use probably.

    #2840

    Alex – NetSpot
    Keymaster

    WiSpy is not an ideal solution. It’s a radio signal sniffer, and doesn’t provide the exact data we will need for heatmap building. But we are working with them as well.

    #2972

    norse2
    Participant

    Add another vote for supporting external (USB) WIFI adapters.

    When my trusty Apple Airport Extreme finally died after many years of faithful service I decided to go with an Asus RT-AC68U and I love it. I just wish I could fully utilize its AC speed with my macs.

    After spending several days trying to track down a workable alternative from one of the major vendors I finally found the “Netis WF2190 AC1200 Dual Band USB Wireless Adapter.” I know that Apple is rolling their computer line to using 801.11ac but that leaves the older hardware (like my late 2012 mini and late 2010 macbook Air) with nothing better than N.

    I had never heard of Netis before but I applaud them for going where Netgear, D-Link and the rest seem unwilling to go. Since I doubt that Apple will ever make an external adapter I am sure there will soon be more people in my situation.

    #2973

    Alex – NetSpot
    Keymaster

    Is this Netis adapter AirPort compatible?

    #2992

    Jakob Peterhänsel
    Participant

    >Is this Netis adapter AirPort compatible?

    It seems so: http://www.netis-systems.com/en/products/Dualband-Series/904.html#.VSZjEVzMeM4

    System Requirements:
    Windows XP (32/64bits), Windows Vista (32/64bits),
    Windows 7 (32/64bits), Windows 8 (32/64bits),
    Windows 8.1 (32/64bits);
    Linux (as Ubuntu 12.10/13.04/13.10/14.10);
    Mac OS 10.4/10.5/10.6/10.7/10.8/10.9/10.10

    #2998

    Jakob Peterhänsel
    Participant

    Using such an external device, Iø’m thinking it would be great to be able to sample from Both internal And external!?!
    That way, you could see if there is a huge difference in the antennas.. (although that is not possible on iOS devices..)

    #3014

    Alex – NetSpot
    Keymaster

    It’s surely beneficial to add support of external adapters to NetSpot, we just haven’t come across any Airport-compatible ones. Even this Netis one seems to require it’s own driver and not a single word about support of Airport framework. Jakob, do you have our test utility to verify that?

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